From a Cosmic Nudge to an Integral Christianity – A Conversation with Cynthia Bourgeault
In this potent and engaging conversation, Cynthia Bourgeault is hosted by Paul Smith (author of Integral Christianity) and Luke Healy of the Integral Christian Network. Together they offer deep insights and personal experiences to illuminate the emerging scope and potential for Christianity.
The dialogue is infused by their shared appreciation and revelations inspired by Jean Gebser’s seminal work Ever Present Origin. As the conversation unfolds their reflections and transmissions provide a glimpse into how the Christian Mystical/Wisdom path is poised for full expression at this crucial time, through the multi-dimensional structures of an Integral consciousness.
“You feel Gebser’s deep mystical love for Christianity and for Christ. It’s as powerful as Teilhard’s actually, and it winds up saying very much the same thing: that there is something so intrinsically whole, beautiful, real, and sacramental in the path of emergence as it filters through Integral in a Christian mode. And not only is it absolutely necessary for the full realization of Integral, but there would be no full realization of Integral without it.”
– Cynthia Bourgeault
“God can be beyond us… and God can be as us, and also God wants to be near us as a personal connection.”
– Paul Smith
You can find the ICN podcast with Cynthia here or listen below:
Podcast topic notes and times:
The podcast starts with ICN’s David Pinkston offering a short guided “Whole Body Mystical Awaking” practice to open and ground your listening experience.
12:57 – Finding Gebser (“You don’t find books, they find you.”)
25:00 – Embodying wisdom in tumultuous times
34:37 – Cynthia’s thoughts on Gebser and G.I. Gurdjieff
40:17 – Paul discusses other embodiment practices and Whole Body Mystical Awakening
46:11 – Features of Western non-duality
52:30 – Moving Integral to the personal (2nd-person spirituality and spirit guides/presences, co-inherence!, I/it? Or I/thou.)
1:02:41 – Gebser and the Christ-mystery, Christ-teachers and the unfolding of human history
1:12:28 – Healing work from Cynthia’s and Paul’s perspectives
1:25:42 – Final thoughts
Cynthia Bourgeault’s ongoing series of reflections on Jean Gebser’s Even Present Origin and related topics can be found on her website blog page here: CynthiaBourgeault.org
Practices and writings offered by Paul Smith and Luke Healy, including recent reflections stemming from Jean Gebser’s work, can be found on their website here: Integral Christian Network
Deep gratitude for this podcast and bringing together these amazing teachers ~ great facilitation also!
My question goes to understanding the connection between Gebser and Wilber ~ at times there is confusion around language. When Ken speaks of aperspectival madness he is referring to the postmodern extreme we are living in (my humble understanding) not integral. In Gebser’s language aperspectival means integral. Gebser didn’t write about postmodern, dying in the 70’s I don’t think he saw it ~ any thoughts about Gebser and postmodern? again ~ thanks for this work and love! Holly